Madame,
WELCOME!
Yours in this Journey,
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Vernon Williams
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A lurker says hello
by Madame inr. f. wondered how many lurkers there are on the board.
i don't know the answer, but i will admit that i since a few years am one of them.
i read here almost every day.. like many others here i am an ex-jw, left the organisation about 25 years ago and never regretted it.. .
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Is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society an Anti-Christ Organization?
by OUTLAW inthe wbt$ certainly puts themselves as mediator between god and mankind..very unchristian.....in many cases the wbt$ would have us ignore the words of jesus and have us rely on them,for any meaning the bible may have..as in the case of the september 15th 1968 watchtower artical "why are you looking foreward to 1975??
?..the writer tells us "this is no time to be toying with the words of jesus!
"..the end is very near..this was on a thread by another poster a few days ago.....we all know that armageddon did not arrive as predicted by the wbt$ in 1975..but..to work up the 1975 frenzy,jw`s were told to ignore the words of jesus.....is telling people to ignore the words of jesus,anti-christ behavior?.....outlaw
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Inquis,
Vernon Williams, here.
I am watching Levi, so my concentration levels are not up to par.....
The WT is anti-Christ.
Period.
The goal, the main point of thier ministry is to destroy, demolish whatever relationship one has with Jesus. If a person does not have a "religion," The JW's goal is to see to it that a personal relationship with Jesus is NOT formed. Not matter how screwed up "Chirstian" groups are, they do not regulate Jesus to the position he holds in the mind/heart of the average JW.
If, for some reason....I do not follow your thinking, exactly.....you think the JWs are "pro-Christ" in regard to the relationship one has with Jesus...well you, simply are un-schooled in JW
mythologytheology
My take,
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Funny Things Kids Say to Brighten Your Day......
by AK - Jeff inart linkletter used to do program in which he highlighted the funny things that kids say.
later bill cosby did the same sort of show.
locally, there is a lady who does a newspaper column in which funny things are recounted.. this forum represents hundreds and even thousands of people - many of whom have childen, or at least are around children.
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Jeff,
":Levi" is my wife's great nephew: we recieved him into our home when he was two...he will be six in Oct. I wrote down several "Levi" stories: here is one: happened about a year and a half ago, now:
To All, Levi has had a couple of adventures of late: we were given two kinds of "treats" to give to the ducks at the park by Mr and Mrs Nash down the street from Mr and Mrs Massri: Cheetos and salad crackers. I took Levi to the park and we learned the following: Geese hate Cheetos. They are not wild about crackers. They hiss at you for messing up on what to bring to the park for snack time and have a very non forgiving attitude. Ducks prefer salad crackers to Cheetos and are generally thankful. Small black birds with sharp beaks like everything and will go to dangerous extremes to nab a Cheeto. Levi took all this in and was quite pleased with the snack experment. I guess his animal observation experment germinated and he moved on to more aggressive scientific adventures. This morning, I was setting in the Study working on an email when I heard Aunt Terra yell, "My God, Levi, what are you doing??!!??" Usually, from word spoken and tone, I can tell Levi is in some sort of an expermental mode and the cost of the experment, in Aunt Terra's estimation, is greater than the "general good." "Terra, what happened?" I venture a inquiry. "Levi, is in here licking the cat!" Aunt Terra responded in a state of dis-belief. Turns out, Levi decided to help Fetch, our eighteen year old cat, groom herself. Seeing the manner of "natural grooming" Levi decided to assist in a, mutually, natural manner. After a couple of licks, he realized this was not the best method for a human to help a cat groom itself. Fetch is shedding. Badly. Just after Aunt Terra yelled, Levi ran across the room to the doorway of the Study and was standing about three feet from me. His eyes were very wide. He was waving his arms about like the robot from the old "Lost in Space" TV show (DANGER!! DANGER!!) His mouth was in a contortion. If he stuck out his tongue to get the cat hair out of his mouth to avoid gagging, it did not get the hair off his tongue. If he brought his tongue back into his mouth, well, he had a mouthful of cathair. He was rapidly vacilating between sticking his tongue out, gagging, and spitting. This happened, as all Levi incidents do, rapidly. "Go wash out your mouth in the bathroom sink." was my advice. He took off and in a few seconds I heard water running and "gurgle, gurgle, spit" going on in there. Problem solved. This time......
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I WAS THINKING WHICH CAN BE DANGEROUS...........
by juni ini was first contacted by the jws in 1968 when i was pg w/our first son.
i bought the little blue book "the truth that leads to everlasting life" for 25 cents.
found it interesting, but put it away because i was busy after our son's birth and i didn't think my husband would want to get into religious material as we had left the methodist church because they were always crying for $.. jump ahead to 1970. husband was home which was unusual because he normally worked saturdays.
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There were so many "reg flags" that it looked like a parade of emergancy vehicles with every light, bell, and siren turned on.....
Stupidity on my part?
Damn straight.
What held me to the Witnessess was doctrine.....forty years with these chuckle heads and not one Christian along the way capable of discussing the Good News in a calm, consistant manner....funny, huh?
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The parts made of rock?
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Long time members, how do you cope with so much tragedy on this forum?
by PEC ini have only been here for six months and i can see why so many people have to leave or at least take breaks from this forum.. what are you doing to cope?
i want to stay, please help.
pm me if needed.. philip.
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Spark,
So, if we are on the "Good List," it still means we can share in a round of Tequila, can't we...huh....can't we......please......
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Where do you go for your spiritual needs?
by Blindbutnowisee ini never was baptize as a jw.
i use to study with them for years, i even went as for as becoming a unbaptize publisher.
i gave up being a publisher because i did not feel genuine in my efforts to preach.
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Eclispe,
Intense post....wow.....
Peace,
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To Narkisis
by Vernon Williams innark,.
i have a question for you (and, anyone interested):.
the jews, if i am correct, counted a "day" as 24 hours from sunset to sunset.. jesus was reserected sometime after sundown on saturday night.. he was to be in the grave three days.. if we back up three days, it means jesus died before sundown on wed. not friday.. they wanted him dead before the sabbath.
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Joseph, Nark, Leo......,
First a note to nvr:
On the Cuban girl: I came up with that on my own...I, really, should not even have such thoughts filtering through my mind.....really. I have, time to time, thought of "island scenes" like this...wish I had arranged my life to see a few....
I have somewhat "surrendered" to the reality of the who, what, and where that makes up my life. Tonight, I was thinking (as I was digging egg shells, chopped up chicks, and some other muck out of a vacumn system....yuck) how we need to be content that, in some way, as we submit to Christ, He is using us for a far greater purpose than we know....so need to strive for patience and long suffering.
Still yet, starry night, waves making that little splashing noise, and bronze skin and dark hair in the moonlight.....well, IF things had been a weeee bit different......
NOTE OVER
Thank you for your explanations. I started to read them, however, the last eleven hours have numbed my brain to the point I can not reason on your fine words. I will study them the next couple of days...I am sure I will tax your patience a bit more....
Gratefull for you kindness,
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Where do you go for your spiritual needs?
by Blindbutnowisee ini never was baptize as a jw.
i use to study with them for years, i even went as for as becoming a unbaptize publisher.
i gave up being a publisher because i did not feel genuine in my efforts to preach.
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Many ex jws go to the Early Church, see the pattern of worship and the basic fundamentals, move forward to our time, and seek the closest approximation. The ones that do this end up Roman Catholic, Orthodox, or Anglican.
If you want to discuss this, feel free....
I am Anglican litergically and Orthodox, mainly, in "perspective." This is where I am in Journey.
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Is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society an Anti-Christ Organization?
by OUTLAW inthe wbt$ certainly puts themselves as mediator between god and mankind..very unchristian.....in many cases the wbt$ would have us ignore the words of jesus and have us rely on them,for any meaning the bible may have..as in the case of the september 15th 1968 watchtower artical "why are you looking foreward to 1975??
?..the writer tells us "this is no time to be toying with the words of jesus!
"..the end is very near..this was on a thread by another poster a few days ago.....we all know that armageddon did not arrive as predicted by the wbt$ in 1975..but..to work up the 1975 frenzy,jw`s were told to ignore the words of jesus.....is telling people to ignore the words of jesus,anti-christ behavior?.....outlaw
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Is the Pope Roman Catholic?
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